Me a Believer
Provocative Zionist Christian projects Muslims as terrorist, killers, and barbarians. This could be associated to their insecurity, arrogance, ignorance and self claimed righteousness. It could also be due to that Christian Churches is losing followers to Islam. There are more non-believers who put their faith in Islam and more Christians who convert to Islam.
Just how would you have followers or converts if you kill them, ridiculous. Not even one with the brains of a gnat would believe that a Muslim imam engaged in inviting non-Muslims to Islam would undermine his cause by making an open statement that the Muslim mission in life is to kill all non-Muslims. Or else he must be insane or hopelessly dim-witted. The Prophet and his companions would not have left alive any non-Muslim tribes in Arabia, when they had got complete authority over them. Was it because of the fear of the sword that hundreds of thousands of the most warlike Arabs of the time literally followed the Prophet in everything he commanded?
Muslims are quite successfully convincing the non-Muslims—instead of trying to kill them—that Islam is more tolerant than Judaism and at any rate the Christian coalition. Of course, one may cite instances of Muslims killing non-Muslims, but at the same time, Christians, too, have been killing non-Christians and even Christians! People are blind or just play blind in seeing what is reality. The great crusade was a product of politics, greed, ignorance and arrogance as well as the jihad. And to make things clear jihad does not mean Holy War, it is the Crusaders who call their war holy, what’s holy about war anyway. Jihad means striving simple as that and for Muslim it is strive to follow the words of God. Does anyone need a command from God to go and kill? In Islam, it is true that God has permitted fighting; but this fighting must be against oppression and injustice, not against non-Muslims as such! Where innocent men, women and children are attacked, or when intolerable atrocities are committed, Muslims are asked to fight to protect the innocent and safeguard their rights.
Have any of you read the Koran? You can buy it for $3.00 compare to $12.00 Christian bible. In order to understand and know what you believe in, it is right that you have to listen and understand and respect the beliefs of others. Or if not you will just be living in a fortress in which you have false security and artificial satisfaction without knowing how vast the kingdom is beyond the walls. But well it is smart to limit once knowledge but it is wise to learn. The Qur’an does not instruct Muslims to kill non-believers to guarantee them a place in Heaven. God/Allah commands the believers to invite others to His way in the most peaceful manner. In this call, the Muslims are commanded to appeal to their common sense. I will not elaborate but this is written in Koran/Qur’an: Al-Baqarah 2:256 & Al-Kahf 18:29 & Fussilat 41:34 & An-Nahl 16:125.
I am not an Islam convert. I don’t turn my back to Christianity either. I just despise our ignorance, our self-centeredness, our claimed righteousness, our arrogance, our denials and us humans who does not evolve towards divinity, as God wanted us, to be like him. We loss our senses and miss the true essence of faith. “God” wanted as man to be GOD. When we are all GOD there will be peace and prosperity and joy and love and heaven here on earth. Religions are our guide in achieving our life goal to be satisfied as gods. And as Christian Jesus is the greatest example that man can be god. Can you imagine when we are all like Jesus? And for Muslim why do they have to strive in following the words of Allah?
Well I am a man of dreams and I believe that we are nothing without our dreams. So lets say that I am the only one in this world who had this "idea" of human evolving into divinity. Lets consider it is "my" philosophy-ideology-fantasy. And the Man-Jesus-God is very debatable so it is on the belief and faith of the individual. We cannot induce, but we can share our understanding and stand on this issue. Jesus was/is god yes? But when he was 13-30 who is he? I will not elaborate cause it is endless discussion. What I believe is that god set his self as an example. He said hey look I am God, I will be a man to show you how to be God. Did Jesus teachings introduce us on how to follow his footsteps how to be good and do good? If not what did he teaches us? To glorify and praise and worship and love God? God doesn’t need this He is God for God sake? God wanted us to be like him because he loves, glorify, worship, praise us, because we are his creation we are him, his breath and likeness, He wants us to share His Kingdom. Here I set/focus/consider myself as a Christian, but isn’t it that the aim of religions is for the goodness of all mankind and to give hope thru spirituality?
Just how would you have followers or converts if you kill them, ridiculous. Not even one with the brains of a gnat would believe that a Muslim imam engaged in inviting non-Muslims to Islam would undermine his cause by making an open statement that the Muslim mission in life is to kill all non-Muslims. Or else he must be insane or hopelessly dim-witted. The Prophet and his companions would not have left alive any non-Muslim tribes in Arabia, when they had got complete authority over them. Was it because of the fear of the sword that hundreds of thousands of the most warlike Arabs of the time literally followed the Prophet in everything he commanded?
Muslims are quite successfully convincing the non-Muslims—instead of trying to kill them—that Islam is more tolerant than Judaism and at any rate the Christian coalition. Of course, one may cite instances of Muslims killing non-Muslims, but at the same time, Christians, too, have been killing non-Christians and even Christians! People are blind or just play blind in seeing what is reality. The great crusade was a product of politics, greed, ignorance and arrogance as well as the jihad. And to make things clear jihad does not mean Holy War, it is the Crusaders who call their war holy, what’s holy about war anyway. Jihad means striving simple as that and for Muslim it is strive to follow the words of God. Does anyone need a command from God to go and kill? In Islam, it is true that God has permitted fighting; but this fighting must be against oppression and injustice, not against non-Muslims as such! Where innocent men, women and children are attacked, or when intolerable atrocities are committed, Muslims are asked to fight to protect the innocent and safeguard their rights.
Have any of you read the Koran? You can buy it for $3.00 compare to $12.00 Christian bible. In order to understand and know what you believe in, it is right that you have to listen and understand and respect the beliefs of others. Or if not you will just be living in a fortress in which you have false security and artificial satisfaction without knowing how vast the kingdom is beyond the walls. But well it is smart to limit once knowledge but it is wise to learn. The Qur’an does not instruct Muslims to kill non-believers to guarantee them a place in Heaven. God/Allah commands the believers to invite others to His way in the most peaceful manner. In this call, the Muslims are commanded to appeal to their common sense. I will not elaborate but this is written in Koran/Qur’an: Al-Baqarah 2:256 & Al-Kahf 18:29 & Fussilat 41:34 & An-Nahl 16:125.
I am not an Islam convert. I don’t turn my back to Christianity either. I just despise our ignorance, our self-centeredness, our claimed righteousness, our arrogance, our denials and us humans who does not evolve towards divinity, as God wanted us, to be like him. We loss our senses and miss the true essence of faith. “God” wanted as man to be GOD. When we are all GOD there will be peace and prosperity and joy and love and heaven here on earth. Religions are our guide in achieving our life goal to be satisfied as gods. And as Christian Jesus is the greatest example that man can be god. Can you imagine when we are all like Jesus? And for Muslim why do they have to strive in following the words of Allah?
Well I am a man of dreams and I believe that we are nothing without our dreams. So lets say that I am the only one in this world who had this "idea" of human evolving into divinity. Lets consider it is "my" philosophy-ideology-fantasy. And the Man-Jesus-God is very debatable so it is on the belief and faith of the individual. We cannot induce, but we can share our understanding and stand on this issue. Jesus was/is god yes? But when he was 13-30 who is he? I will not elaborate cause it is endless discussion. What I believe is that god set his self as an example. He said hey look I am God, I will be a man to show you how to be God. Did Jesus teachings introduce us on how to follow his footsteps how to be good and do good? If not what did he teaches us? To glorify and praise and worship and love God? God doesn’t need this He is God for God sake? God wanted us to be like him because he loves, glorify, worship, praise us, because we are his creation we are him, his breath and likeness, He wants us to share His Kingdom. Here I set/focus/consider myself as a Christian, but isn’t it that the aim of religions is for the goodness of all mankind and to give hope thru spirituality?
posted by subay at 11/06/2005 10:01:00 AM
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